Hi. This is Elle. Yesterday, my boyfriend called me a “diva”.
A DIVA, ladies. Don’t get me wrong, I know I have (ahem) assets, but a diva, I am not. I do not have any large hats with big bows on them. I do not own a dress made from sequins. I do not require 75 green M&Ms in my dressing room before my show. In fact, I don’t even have a show. So where is this coming from!?
Upon stifling my shock, I did manage to squeak out a “Could you elaborate on that? Honey? Honey-dearest?” Are you imagining my strained smile?
Apparently, the culprit of my diva-dom is my shoes, sunglasses and 20 oz. latte. Okay, so we’re no longer talking about “take the stage” diva – we’re talking about “I’m too good for you” diva, which – in my opinion – is worse than the former. When I think “Diva + Shoes + Coffee + Sunglasses”, I see Victoria Beckham which, I admit, isn’t too bad… But from a boy’s perspective, I can assume it’s not the greatest vibe to be throwing out there.
…But what does that mean as far as my style goes? After spilling the above story to Jennifer Nicole, she revealed that she’d gotten the same -ahem- “star treatment” from her boyfriend and we decided to tackle the question as a whole: How do our partners’ views of our styles change the way we view ourselves?
I definitely don’t like the connection between myself and “diva”, so should I take my boyfriend’s statement to heart? Do I adjust my style standards based on an analysis from a grungy, non-style-interested boy in his late 20s or say, “Hey, my style is open to interpretation, and I’m movin’ on”? This is the man I’m in love with, the man whose opinions I respect in everything else, and though I could race through the self-conscious question line involving such standards as “Does he think less of me now?”, it does me no good. Besides, I’m worried about my style here, people!
While I respect his opinion, I currently have no plans of adjusting my “diva”ness. I love my big, bug sunglasses, and my ever-growing shoe collection. I am completely and wholeheartedly addicted to my 20 oz. Soy Carmel Latte, and ripping that from my hands might as well kill me on the spot. Of course I would never fault my darling boy for interpreting my style that way – hell, that’s what it’s there for! Art is always open to interpretation – that’s the beauty of it. While I might smile more at folks passing on the street (I’m not a diva, I promise!), I certainly have no plans to change my style because of my boyfriend’s perception.
Luckily, my boyfriend has figured out that the word “diva” sends most fashionistas into a fit, so when we started talking about style, that word never passed his lips. He did mention, though, that when he met me I was “a total prep,” and that after I moved to Seattle my style changed to “indie…but not music indie. Casual indie.” I think that has something to do with my love affair with jeans, but I hope it also takes into account that I go for a less trendy “effortless” look. When I pushed for clarification, all he said was, “Like fashion, I am open to interpretation.”
Thanks, honey. That really helps.
While I take my boyfriend’s opinions into consideration - he’s got an eye for classic fashion and can always tell if something will work on my curvy body - I never rely on them when it comes to my personal style. If I had, I would still be stuck in that preppy rut, wondering if he’d hate that weird-looking top or those bright orange shoes (which, by the way, he thinks are a little silly…and I still wear them). Because I can be an impulsive shopper, I do ask him about clothing I’m uncertain about, but if it’s something I know I’ll wear, something that makes me feel good about myself, it’s going in my closet whether he likes it or not!
How does your partner feel about your style? What do you do when their Boyception (or Girlception!) doesn’t match your view of yourself?
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Stated Simply: A Post About Soap! : Awakened Aesthetic added these pithy words on Dec 10 09 at 1:34 pmThis post brought a smile to my face– mostly because the ideas in it are so true.
1. Fella once described my style as “trashy” (in reference to my club wear). Though it sounds like an offensive description, it wasn’t wrong– short skirts, tons of make-up, sometimes no pants, stilettos, big hair, torn fishnet…
2. Now he describes it as “I dunno…it’s you.” For the most part, I think he sees my style as something that is a part of me, something that leaves him guessing, that’s as broad & eccentric as myself. I think he likes that about it now (even if he loves to hate my polka dots).
There are certain things we both bear in consideration when it comes to the other. I keep my hair longer, and I don’t go blonde (which is fine, as I prefer both of those). He knows how I like his facial hair now or how long I like his hair. There are certain things we keep in consideration, because we want to remain attractive to the other. Other things, they are ours to “style” as we please.
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Ashe: Exactly! I’ve had a friend or two balk when I’ve told them that I take my boyfriend’s hair preferences into consideration (I don’t cut it pixie-short and occasionally wear my indie bangs to the side – he generally hates blunt bangs) but in the same vein, he has kept a beard for me for years and tried a designer jeans on my recommendation. (Side note: now he won’t go back to his Carharts.) It’s not about changing who you are – it’s merely the choice to respect and consider your loved ones’ preferences when accentuating your style. There’s nothing wrong with that!
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I have a theory that most guys only understand two types of looks on women: the Uber Feminine look or the Ultra Sexy look. Uber Feminine as in demure, ladylike, classic clothes; Ultra Sexy as in tight/cleavage-baring/short/meant to turn a guy on/all of the above. Anything unusual that falls outside of these categories tends to be hard for masculine minds to grasp.
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I get called a diva all the time by both women and men not because of my behavior or anything, simply because of my love of shopping, designer labels and the 130 pairs of shoes in my closet. I don’t really care. I guess I’ve just never been the type to care what anyone thinks, ESPECIALLY when it comes to fashion. I’ve never feared any trend, any color, any cut. I don’t know if it’s me being delusional or just overly confident but when people say anything (negative) about my style I kind of just mentally roll my eyes. Does that make me a diva? I mean I know “diva” often carries a negative connotation, but does it have to be a bad thing? I don’t know, but if people call me a diva cause I got style, then I’ll take it!!
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So I asked my guy to describe my style based on the question above.
First question from him: “Are there choices?”
Then he says (direct quote):
A cross between SATC and the “June Cleaver” element of being very presentable in any situation with the imagery of walking through the living room and doing a twirl part the way through – walk, spin, keep walking.
I’m not sure what that means… but I kind of like it, actually.
I don’t think I’ve changed my style at all for him or based on his preferences. Luckily he seems to like what I wear (most of the time). I do ask him what he thinks about certain outfits, and while he hates that, he makes good comments. But when he says, “Whoa! Sexy!” as I’m going to work, I know it’s time to wear a longer skirt.
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Matt really doesn’t care what I wear. I was actually kind of worried when I started to think about my style and such, b/c in a matter of months I went from very punk-ish, jeans, band t-shirts, patches, etc. to more whimsical, theatrical, offbeat outfits. But he doesn’t even seem to notice clothes and he doesn’t care what I do with my hair (he’s seen it short, as long as I let it get – around chin-length, little longer maybe, mohawked, etc.); he’s actually said I could shave my head and he wouldn’t care! I don’t so much care what he does either, although I do get on him sometimes about his facial hair or eyebrow grooming.
I just asked him how he’d describe my style and he responded with a totally baffled “I don’t know!! Uh, Michelle chic?”. Sigh. As I mentioned on Twitter, he wears a pretty steady uniform of plain white shirts and either blue or black jeans, and apparently considers himself not the person to ask about style!
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Retweeting @TheDemoiselles: Boyception: How does your partner view your style? Does it matter? http://bit.ly/jSqJE This was so fun to write!
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I have to admit that a boy has been probably one of the most major influences in my trying to incorporate new types of clothes into my wardrobe. He was puzzled why I didn’t show off my legs in shorts, miniskirts, high heels, etc, and all I could think of was how “I’m not that girl”. I just felt awkward and self-conscious in shorts, same in heels (I’m 5’9″ as it is). He’s the only person who ever called me “sexy” instead of “cute” or “pretty” so, what can I say, I listened. I started to experiment and to my surprise I liked what I saw, and my wardrobe (or wardrobe plans) for this summer are looking pretty drastically different from what would have even been on the radar last year.
So obviously my “style” (such as it is) has been influenced by a boy. I think it’s as much that he said the things I needed to hear when I was ready to hear them. Sometimes you need a new set of eyes to call your attention to something you’d missed, and can you blame me for giving extra weight to such gorgeous eyes as those…?
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JFount: My boyfriend has certainly influenced the branching out of my style, and more than anything, my confidence. He’s always able to make me feel sexy when no one else can, and while my specific style choices aren’t due to him, my ability to try new things and love myself in them definitely is. If he hadn’t had confidence in me, I never would have found it in myself.
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Hmm…
Well, I do know that the boyfriend likes my style. He has mentioned that he didn’t know exactly what he was looking for in a girlfriend before he met me except for a couple of traits — good sense of style being one of them. So I guess that means I fit the qualification! Haha.
Style is important in relationships I think — it’s one of the first things someone notices when they meet you, and as you get to know each other they decipher how your style & personality fit together, and then it’s continued interest and attraction as the relationship goes on.
I do know that the boyfriend things Zooey Deschanel is wicked cute — so while I definitely loved her style before and felt we had similar views on clothes, I keep an eye out for it a little more and I can’t say it hasn’t also slightly influenced how I dress.
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My style has, well mellowed in the years that I’ve been with my husband. He only cares to a small degree what I wear. I know he likes that I still dye my hair, but that’s about it. I know…boring, oh well. We can’t all be divas!
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I took upon myself today, after reading this post, to see how Danny would describe my style in hiw own words.
I thought about cornering him when we were eating lunch, but he brought the topic up himself while commenting on my magenta cruched velvet flats, with a big iridescent satin rose on the toe:
Him: NOT THOSE SHOES. What’s up with those shoes?!
Me: After 3 years, your still on me about these shoes.
Him: They are ridiculous just like you.
Me: If someone who had not met me asked you how I dressed, what would you say?
Him: GYPSY. You look like one, and you act like one, and I’m going to call them to come take away those damn shoes.
Then we had a good laugh, as I looked down at my colorful drapey outfit, with all it’s delicate trimmings, and my DAMN SHOES.
When we first met, this is how I dressed. Danny’s little comments turned into nasty ones for a while. Hating my outfits, hating the colors, hating all the handmade things I own. But I just kept a hard head through it all, and now he deals with it. There was no way I was going to let him pick out my clothes for me, because being an artist, I think of dressing myself as part of my art, and who I am as a piece of art.
We probably look like an odd couple at times, Danny being a typical “bro”-type, but I would loose a little piece of me, if I didn’t at least try to wear a hand made unicorn dress to him fancy company party.
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First of all, and I may be in the minority, but I don’t mind being called a diva. It probably has something to do with Beyonce’s recent single about divas being female hustlers and that quickly becoming my private empowering song, but still. I think it’s a positive connotation, for the most part.
Secondly, my boyfriend has definitely been a positive influence on my fashion sense. When we met, I don’t think I owned a skirt or more than three shirts that were not t-shirts. Now, after overcoming quite a bit (but certainly not all) of my negative body image with his encouragement and insistence to watch Tim Gunn’s Guide to Style, Project Runway, and What Not To Wear, I can say I’ve grown up quite a bit.
Even last week I bought a sundress and non-gladiator sandals. Go me. I got a high five and a big kiss and dinner at my favorite Italian place. I’d say that worked out well.
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When dealing with a partner who has none or rather a different vocabulary for fashion than yourself, I think the best thing is a slow and dedicated lesson in style. When seeing celebrities, magazine, etc, I occasionally show my parter the pic/person and use the term I associated with that look, “look, this is so L.A.”, this is so “upscale boho”, this is “american classic” (no all at once of course, slowly over the course of time)…. and like a child with flashcards eventually they start to use the same description as you do (or at least a little closer than before). Because hearing a “that’s old fashioned” as you leave the house in your “neo-retro chic” outfit sends even the most secure stylista into doubt sometimes. It takes some time, but if it’s your soulmate, it is worth it to pave the way a little and bridge the gap.
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I have always been a girl’s girl when it comes to styling. My friends will come to be for advice on what to wear, and the girls in my life have always a compliment ready for whatever I’m wearing. The boys are… less sure. One tells me “You get some things so right and some SO WRONG!” another tells me “You do cutesy really well, but you really should wear jeans more”. I know my clothes can be a bit much for your standard late 20s early 30s male, but they’re what I love.
I was with my ex for 8 years, and after a bit of coaching he developed a real sense of style for both of us. Eighteen months out of our relationship (and still friends) I still look at my outfits and think “what would xxxx think?” – if he’d like it I said sod ‘em to the rest!
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What’s wrong with divas?!They are fantastic!
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Ohmigosh! I so love this post; which makes me love you.
I’m currently without a boyfriend; but last year I had a guy ask me if I was from Orange County, and when I said I was from New York, he was completely shocked. He said my style was so much like the girls from “Laguna Beach.” I thought it was a weird remark. It made me wonder if he thought I was rich, or something; which I’m totally not – hello, broke college student here!
His perception of me was just strange. Since then, I’ve always contemplated whether something that I’m wearing is too California-girl or not. I know, I know…dumb. But I do.
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Funny to see another Bailey here, also awesome!
I know if I asked John what he thought of my style, he would say “You dress like my cute (adorable, beautiful, adjective of the day) girlfriend,” and give me a kiss. He is generally apathetic, but when I solicit his opinion, he is honest and helpful. Example: I have a dress that I love, but it is Trashy Short in the back (boo). I tried putting it over a pair of skinny jeans (ugh) and a pair of leggings after that (double ugh). I asked him what he thought both times, and he kind of made a face – which was awesome for me, because I know he doesn’t give a shit about style, but he knows what looks good and flatters (if that makes sense?), and I can trust that I won’t walk out of the house looking like a Tragic Thing if I try something new. And when I dress up, or put on make-up and do my hair, he always says, “You look nice!” and gives a smooch.
It’s nice to know that I can put on a pair of jeans and a tee, or a shirtdress and little flats, and get the same reaction. Hooray!
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this is one of those posts I find myself just nodding in agreement at my computer screen. the exact same thing happened with me and my boyfriend! i think males see only three types of women
1. the “natural” beachy chick that can be ready in 2 minutes
2. the preppy, classic girl
3. the “fashionista, carrie bradshaw” type that collects shoes and clothing and dresses more sexy
4. punk, rocker chick style
let’s teach them a lesson! i’m sick of these categories! it’s insulting!
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i had someone call me a Suuuuuuuuper diva, it was so random and out of context but it was hilarious moment!
anyway, im proud of being a diva, and i do have a few beyonce’s songs that i blast loud & proud, “diva” is one of them actually! to me there is a sense of humor to being a “diva” as opposed to being a “b*****” which is just plain mean. but it’s interesting when i get compliments from the most average of guys when im wearing something more fashion forward.
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